Category Archives: Mystery Monday
This week I have spent hours pouring over the Texas births from 1930-1935 putting all names that even remotely resembled my maiden name. Then I turned around and started a search with my grandmother’s maiden name (surname only) as the mother on ancestry for those years in hopes of trying to find records on my father’s birth. Dad said he was told that he was born in Bailey Hospital and that it was a private hospital in San Antonio, Texas. The only place I can find my grandfather is on the 1920 census as a lodger. I was able to locate a newspaper clipping of where my father was listed as one of the returning football players for Rolling Fork, Mississippi high school. No records that I know of is on my grandmother and I would really like to find her and my grandfather both. The only name I have on her is Helen maybe Hellen McGlothlin born 22 Mar 1896 supposedly in or close to Comanche, Tx. My grandfather is Frank Estrado(Estrada?) Alderete born in Floresville, Tx in 1897, possibly 1898. Some time between 1920 and 1934 my grandparents married, gave birth to my father in 1934 and when he was 3 they moved to Issaquena County, Mississippi, where my grandfather became the manager of Homochitta Plantation. His social security number will not come up in a search on the ssdi database even tho we have his ss card and it’s listed on his death certificate. How I would so love to solve this mystery.
Well, well, well….(I know…don’t remind me…mighty deep subject for such a shallow mind) I solved one mystery this weekend for myself but lawdy have mercy did it ever create more!! I kept wondering why things did not tally out on my 5th great-grandmother, Charity Baker, born 1757, Franklin, North Carolina, married Josiah Eley and died in 1803. She listed herself as Charity Denby when she married Josiah in 1771 but according to court documents it wasn’t until Feb 1771 that James Denby was given guardianship over Charity. If that, being the case, it means she married at 14 and at age 19 James Denby was listed as her guardian. Her biological father died in 1776. She is listed in James Denby’s will but not individually as his children were. Josiah, her husband was also one of James executors of his will. So many trees on different sites has James Denby listed as her father and Patience Norfleet, his wife listed as her mother, which according to the documents are wrong, unless they are accepting them as her adoptive parents.
The following questions now arise – Why was James Denby given guardianship of Charity at age 19 when she was already married? Who is William Baker and where did he come from. Who is Charity’s biological mother? Does this mean I no longer have to search out the James Denby and Patience Norfleet lines but get on the trail of Baker? And last but not least….how the sam thunder do I list all this in my tree in order for it to be correct? Scratches head and sighs……I need a blame time machine to go back in time and be a fly on the wall during Charity’s life!!!
Today, I am going to dwell on my grandfather on my father’s side of my family. Some of the info I will be sharing has been passed down to me via my father and mother, and other information is what I have been able to source out. My grandfather was a very special man according to my mother. She had the joy of knowing him and I only know of him thru my parents. Frank Estrada Alderete was born in Floresville, Wilson County, Texas on 27 Jun 1897 according to his death certificate we were able to obtain from Arizona. I have been able to find him on the 1920 census where he lodged with a family that owned a funeral home in San Antonio. He was their chauffeer. I have no marriage certificate nor birth certificate as of yet. Some time between 1920 and 1934 he met my grandmother, Helen Mcglothlin. I was told that she was born in Comanche County, Texas 22 Mar 1896. They had my father, and again, we have no proof of my dad’s birth 18 Feb 1934. When my parents needed to go to Italy for my brother’s wedding, Dad had to get a half cousin (now deceased) to verify that he was born in the United States in order to get his passport, and then later this was used for him to apply for his social security. When my father was 3, they moved to Mississippi and after several moves, they settled down in Myersville, which is not far from Rolling Fork, Mississippi where my father graduated high school from. My grandfather became the overseer of a plantation there in Myersville in the ’30’s and when Dad was about 12, their house burned. Dad said all their important papers were burned up in that fire. The owner let them move into the barn until they could get a house built for them. Sheets and quilts were hung up to divide the different rooms off in the barn for their living quarters. After Dad graduated from Rolling Fork High School, he enlisted in the army, served his time and then married my mother. In 1957, my grandparents sold all of their belongings and caught a bus headed for Arizona and stopped to spend the night with my parents before going on. Mother said that my Dad’s job was not the greatest at that time so he quit his job, and they packed the car up and moved to Arizona. My grandfather petted and spoiled my mother horribly for she was then carrying me, his first grandchild. He could not wait for the day when I would be placed in his arms but sad to say, just a few short weeks after moving to Glendale, my grandfather died of a massive heart attack on 18 Jan 1958. I was born 15 May 1958, and from then until the fall of 1959, I had a grandmother who doted on me unmercifully, showering me with love, compensating for the love of the grandfather who never knew me but loved me.
So many questions, has come up concerning these two people in my life. Why can I not find him on any other census? And what about my grandmother? I cannot find her either, nor, when their marriage took place. On the death certificate of my grandfather, a social security number was put there that matched the social security card my father has on his Dad, but yet when I try to search out the databases for that number, nothing comes up. So what gives? What can I do to solve this mystery?